Showing posts with label manners. Show all posts
Showing posts with label manners. Show all posts

Tuesday, February 23, 2021

SKATEBOARD PUNKS TRAUMATIZED ME!

Skateboard punks traumatized me. For example, on the campus of the Ohio State University. This probably would've been in the 20th century. Right in the middle of the campus, about as busy as Columbus pedestrian traffic got, there's a museum and performing-arts center designed by Philip Eisenman. Parts of the exterior happen to be great for skateboarding. I don't know if they've changed anything in the meantime, but back then, they hadn't decided whether the space should belong to pedestrians or to skateboarders, so you had lots of both.

 

I don't know whether the skateboarders were intentionally terrorizing... me. I was going to write, "[...]terrorizing pedestrians," but to be honest, I don't know whether anyone else was terrorized. So anyway, I felt as if the skateboarders were invading my personal space and making me get out of their way, and making no effort whatsoever to get out of my way. Even at the time, I wasn't sure whether there was any danger, or any reason for me or any of the other pedestrians to have to dodge them. I don't recall hearing about any skateboarder-pedestrian accidents, or any skateboarder-bicyclist accidents. 

But it FELT as if they were being very rude and as if people had to dodge them, while they made zero effort not to collide with people. And that made me angry. And so I tried to collide with them, I tried to step into their paths. None of them ever hit me. 

So then there was this other guy. I have no idea whether he was a skateboarder or not. He was on the bike path. Or, more precisely, IN the bike path. 

There was a bike path which went from south and east of the OSU campus to north of it as far as Worthington, and probably farther. And often, when I rode on the path, I was grumpy, because 1) I'm grumpy, 2) various large dogs seem to have been trained to attack bicyclists, and 3) there were a lot of people who seemed not to care whether they were in bicyclists' way: walking in big groups, cycling really slow and veering unpredictably from one side of the path to the other, etc. 

So here was this guy, on the path as it ran through the campus and past an area which was divided up into several soccer practice fields. This guy was sitting IN the path, sketching in a pad.

And I mumbled something as I biked around him. 

And then he screamed at me. Something about how he was just doing what he had to do.

Maybe I was twenty yards past him at that point. I laid my bike down on the ground and turned around and faced him. He screamed some more, something like that I should come on, I was twice his size. 

As if he assumed that I intended to physically fight him. No, that was not the case. I had stopped because I was considering talking to him, telling him I got stressed from having to dodge people on the path, and how, at least as it seemed to me, there was plenty of round NEAR the path where he could have been sitting, without making cyclists have to dodge him. 

But I ended up not saying anything. Instead I picked up  my bike and rode away. I suspected that he might have been crazy, or on angel dust or something, and that an attempt at conversation might have been useless. 

I never had any intention of pummeling the guy. And I was upset to begin with because it seemed to me that he was making it unnecessarily difficult for me not to accidentally hit him.

So it seems to me that either I get upset a lot when I shouldn't, or that many other people are astonishingly rude. Or perhaps both.

Saturday, November 7, 2015

Trying To Account For Differences Between Online And Offline Behavior

I'm an atheist, I've been an atheist for 40 years, I've never hidden it, and I've gotten along just fine with a lot of theists and rarely had any problems with them over differences in worldviews. That's been my meat-world experience. My cyber-experience of contact between atheists and theists could not be more starkly different. It has been mostly them fighting and being very rude to each other, and conversations on religious topics are constantly interrupted by verbal abuse from people on either side -- if, that is, there was anything resembling an attempt at discussion to begin with. I don't know what this means. Some possible explanations:

1) I may have been fortunate in the people I've met face-to-face over the course of my life.

2) I may have been unfortunate in the people I've met online over the course of the past 5 years who argue about religion.

3) The people I've met face-to-face and those I've met online may be very similar people, who behave very differently depending upon whether they're interacting face-to-face or in cyberspace.

I was raised by liberal Christians. There was never the slightest hint of my parents disowning me or wanting nothing more to do with me, because I was openly atheistic. A lot of the atheists I've met online were raised by fundamentalist Christians, and they have been disowned and shunned by their families. Over and over again this turns out to be the background of people supporting irreligious billboards and trying to have the 10 Commandments removed from public buildings, and other atheist efforts which I tend to find useless or worse. And these are the same atheists I see behaving very rudely online toward theists -- Christians, mostly -- who are behaving very rudely toward them. (Cousins, feudin' and fightin'?)

So it may just be that the people meet face to face are not those I meet online.

It may be that atheists who come from liberal backgrounds like mine are either hanging out in different places online than I am, or that they are not as vocal as I am about being atheists, or both.

Or it may be that many people's manners are much worse online than offline. Maybe the very same people I meet face-to-face, who seem to take my atheism so calmly in stride, are actually very upset with it, but hide their dismay from me, and take it to the Internet, where they unload in the manner I'm accustomed to seeing online.

Whatever the reasons, the contrast between the behavior I see offline and that I see online is very striking. Perhaps it's very autistic of me to find the difference striking, while the neurologically-typical see nothing strange about people behaving very differently in the 2 spheres.

Thursday, September 29, 2011

In Praise of Bad Manners

Now stay with me here, this is a bit nuanced: impoliteness can be wielded to good effect in good causes by people who also know how to be very polite. Not entirely unlike the way that dissonance and noise can add extra flavor to music by musicians who can tune their instruments well and know all the chords and changes and modes. A great part of Mark Twain's